"Jake
8:09 PM

Hey there,
I"m considering your optimal Breathing Self Mastery Kit. Curious to know...is this just a remarketed set of buteyko and/or pranayma exercises, or no?

Thank you,
Jake.

 

Jake

8:10 PM

great :) Curious to hear the facts

Michael Grant White
8:10 PM

Buteyko is about 10% of optimal breathing.

8:11 PM

https://breathing.com/blogs/breathing-methods-and-breathing-work/buteyko

Jake
8:11 PM

Ok. It's discouraging, as I have just gotten into buteyko. And obviously, the Wim Hof Method is off the table. 
is the kit influenced by Pranayama?

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Michael Grant White
8:12 PM

Pranayama? a bit. Mostly natural breathing.

Michael Grant White
8:14 PM

Pranayama is mostly about spirituality and altered states. Breathing is about breathing. Simple and replicatable.

Jake
8:15 PM

For sure. That makes sense. I mean, for example...the breath of fire, I have practiced it before and while I noticed some benefits, it made me exhausted (I have fatigue issues). Would this help me with fatigue?

Michael Grant White
8:16 PM

For sure it will help with fatigue. I am the only one owning breathing.com . 85,000 have taken our tests and given us insights no one else has.

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Michael Grant White
8:17 PM

I would get this one. https://breathing.com/pages/breathing-kit-with-digital-access

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Jake
8:18 PM

That's the one I was looking at. Last question, and then I"ll bookmark this and look at my funds this coming paycheck...are there at least advantages to breath holds after exhalations?

I see you have an exercise like that in the article you linked.

Michael Grant White
8:20 PM

"'are there at least advantages to breath holds after exhalations?"' it greatly depends. I use one as a test for CO2 tolerance. See also https://breathing.com/blogs/breathing-problems-and-dysfunction/breath-holding and as well use "breath holding" in our seach engine.

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Michael Grant White
8:21 PM

I like your questions.

Jake
8:23 PM

well, shoot. Everything I've been thinking is wrong. Of course. :) Thanks for the article. 

I just notice with breath holds after exhales, or building CO2 levels, the trembling symptom of my anxiety nearly disappears...but I bet I'd get that same effect if I properly breathe. It must mean I'm not breathing out deep enough naturally or something.

It looks like this program is real thorough, for sure.

oh:

"My Optimal Breathing kit has been integrated into the Doctorate program for Advanced Athletic Training (DAT) at the University of 'Idaho. "

That's cool.

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Michael Grant White
8:25 PM

Yep. Sports induced asthma is almost epidemic. Gasping and breath heaving creates tension. Tension that restricts breathing mechanics causing shortness of breath

Jake
8:25 PM

I see. Yeah, I can't work out anymore. I definitely think it's connected with my breathing. I have a history of asthma as well.

Michael Grant White
8:26 PM

Bingo.

Jake
8:26 PM

Does the program talk about exercising and breathing the right way/how much to push?

Michael Grant White
8:28 PM

Of course. It is about healthy breathing and its various expressions and without getting stuck in any one form.

Jake
8:29 PM

Cool. I have it bookmarked. Next paycheck comes in a week. I just want my anxiety symptoms to be lessened. Trembling is just from adrenaline, right? Blah. What an annoying thing. 

Any who, thanks for the help

Michael Grant White
8:29 PM

You are welcome. Hope you join our breathing family.

Jake
8:30 PM

:) thank you.

Have a good night

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Jake
8:34 PM

Shoot. One more question, Mike. haha...Let me guess...do you abhor the Wim Hof method?

Michael Grant White
8:35 PM

No. He is a zealot and good for some but i am afraid he will overdo things not withstand the test of time.

Michael Grant White
8:36 PM

and not withstand the test of time.

Jake
8:36 PM

Rational response. This makes sense.

Jake
8:37 PM

uh I'm reading these testimonials man. I gotta get this when I can. Dammit. Curious, Do you offer payment plan options or no?  Free financing option in the cart.

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Michael Grant White
8:37 PM

 

Jake
8:39 PM


I'm glad to have found you. It seems like no matter which method I have been trying, something is always out of wack either physically or cognitively. I'm sure you hear that a lot from people. 

Goodnight!

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Michael Grant White
8:39 PM

Yes I do. G'nite.

mike"

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